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After these things

The Feast Days are appointments for a future time when they are no longer rehearsals (Moeds) and shadows of things to come, but are being fulfilled and giving life to a fallen creation, a dying Earth and what they represent and what is yet to occur on them, this conjecture is what occurs to me when reading just the first Seven chapters of the Book of Revelation,

Chapter 1 – Introduction and Church
Chapter 2 – Church
Chapter 3 – Church

“After these things” (after the church)

Then the narrative turns very much back to Israel in the use of idioms starting from Chapters 4 until 19 when the Church finally does reappear, but she now shows up riding in very good company.

Daniels 70th week is not about the Church, it’s about the completion of Gods work and promises made to David and Israel and counting from a set time from two specific requirements clearly outlined in Daniel Chapter 9 as being upon ‘Thy people’ Israel and ‘Thy holy city’ Jerusalem.

Chapter 4 – Feast of Trumpets – references to a trumpet, a loud voice like a trumpet, a door being opened, and as Jesus Ascended 10 days before Pentecost in 32 AD, the Feast of Trumpets is 10 days before Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. John is being told to ‘come up here.’

Chapter 5 – Yom Kippur – the judgment is set, the court is in session, on the day of Atonement the books are opened, God has a book in his right hand and who can take it and open it? No one is worthy or even able to look at whats written in the book, time is now over for the Earth and everything living on it, (but wait) this is a future Jubilee, the time of the restitution of all things, legally it requires that it must be declared on the 10th day of the Seventh month following the 49 years per the criteria being met from Leviticus Chapter 25.   Overlay this framework (of the Law) with the requirements from (the Prophet) Daniel Chapter 9 to count the 70 weeks of years and they can, if God permits,  coincide precisely.

Chapter 6 – The book is taken and opened, and by the only one found eligible to do so,  Jesus is our Kinsman Redeemer, our Boaz, the seals are now being opened and events are now being loosed upon the Earth by this legal action, this cannot be turned back or undone once it’s started, it had been restrained until this very moment.

Chapter 7 – Feast of Tabernacles – the multitude appears in Heaven, they are wearing robes and carrying palm branches and it is one of the three feasts, the other two being in the Spring, (Unleavened Bread) and in Summer, (Pentecost) that required any able-bodied person to appear in person.  In the millennium the gentiles will be required to appear in Jerusalem to celebrate it, which is interesting as here they are now in this chapter, everyone is showing up, coming out of tribulation, but events are just getting started on the Earth, you don’t want to be counted with the Earth dwellers after this point,

the light shall not be clear, nor dark

“And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:  But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.Zechariah 14:6-7

Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain

I believe there is a linkage with Revelation Chapter 11, with the measuring of the outer court of the Temple and with Zechariah Chapter 2, where God will be a wall of fire round about and the building of the Temple and of God laying a line over the entire city of Jerusalem, and also to Leviticus Chapter 25 and walled cities, where if encumbered by agreement did not go out in the Jubilee release, and then finally with Satan ultimately being cast out of Heaven in Revelation Chapter 12, which is the start of the ‘Great Tribulation.’

“Therefore thus saith the LORD; I am returned to Jerusalem with mercies: my house shall be built in it, saith the LORD of hosts, and a line shall be stretched forth upon Jerusalem.”  Zechariah 1:16

“I lifted up mine eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand. Then said I, Whither goest thou? And he said unto me, To measure Jerusalem, to see what is the breadth thereof, and what is the length thereof. And, behold, the angel that talked with me went forth, and another angel went out to meet him, And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein: For I, saith the LORD, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her.”  Zechariah 2:1-5

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the city shall be built to the LORD from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner. And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath.”  Jeremiah 31:38-39

It has to do with a future Jubilee being reached and then with this world’s (Satan’s) attempt to break that covenant by dividing Israel and Jerusalem as they have been restored since 1948 (Israel) and 1967 (Jerusalem), being the two conditions required to count the seventy sevens (upon Israel, not the Church) per Daniel Chapter 9.

Further it has to do with the court being in session in Daniel Chapter 7, and the title deed to the Earth and the fullness of time being reached as we’re shown in Revelation Chapters 4, 5 and 6, the Elders are the heavenly Sanhedrin, they are the ‘Court (that) will sit.’

I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.”  Daniel 7:9

“The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.”  Revelation 4:10-11

Satan is attempting to legally claim ownership over the Earth by encumbering the restoration coming at the time of the end with the fulness of the Gentiles as witnessed by Israels restoration, and to do this by breaking the “Everlasting Covenant” via a deceitful agreement, by either dividing Jerusalem and Judea or placing a wall around it or both, which could allow an ordinal mechanism for him to claim legal ownership. In Leviticus Chapter 25, walled cities did not go out with the Jubilee release. Do an online search for “Israel and the wall” and see for your self. It first occurred in 445 BC and the 70 weeks count from Daniel Chapter 9 began and counted all the way to completing 62 weeks (not 69 weeks though it was after 69 weeks when Messiah was crucified in 32 AD, but of the 490 year count it was at 62 weeks or 434 years completed, the 49 years were the Jubilee of righteousness that he provided of himself to as many as would receive it, the Gospel of truth and life and hope and grace, just as he read from Isaiah Chapter 61 and claimed it as being acceptable, it could not be undone by man, but to Israel it could be rejected, for which is was) and it, this same timing, is repeating today but on a much larger scale to a much greater end,

This action with the measuring line then is God once again being far ahead of Satan by making all of Jerusalem a part of the Holy Mount, hence when the court goes into session, Satan will find his scheme was anticipated and accounted for 2500 years in advance, then Satan, as we’re shown in Revelation Chapter 12, being thrown out of Heaven,  no longer having any reason or legal standing to accuse the brethren or claim anything of the covenant over his Earthly authority or over the ‘Earth dwellers’ as their called in the Book of Revelation, but he has somehow encumbered Jerusalem for 1260 days and he will be given his due, as he is now cast to the Earth knowing exactly how short a time he has, but the (now believing) Jewish remnant of Israel will also know the truth and will call for the Messiah to return, they will seek him earnestly and this is why Satan must seek their destruction without delay, having his full attention and desperate wrath poured out like a flood,

” . .and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.” Daniel 9:26

“And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.” Revelation 12:15

“I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.”  Hosea 5:15

After two days,

“After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.”  Hosea 6:2

“Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens, that thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence, As when the melting fire burneth, the fire causeth the waters to boil, to make thy name known to thine adversaries, that the nations may tremble at thy presence!”  Isaiah 64:1-2

Also, as a non-biblical reference, refer to the details of the Temple Scroll discovered in Cave 11 at Qumran, where there is a Temple described with a court that would require the entire city of Jerusalem to be covered by the outer court and also for the entire valley before the Temple between the Mount of Olives and the Temple to be filled in, that is, to be built as described would require millions of tons of rock/dirt/rubble and construction to extend the mount as described. Now notice Zechariah 14, where Messiah splits the mount apart as his foot touches down at his bodily return to the Earth, what is really happening here and why? I conjecture, with the plumb line he is in effect extending the mountain to a plain where it could be built as described?

It also has a tower next to the Temple, just like the vineyard in Isaiah Chapter 5.

Consider:

“This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.”

Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.

Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you.”

Zechariah 4:6-9

“Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;

and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.  Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east,

and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.”

Zechariah 14:1-5

our days on the earth are as a shadow

“For we are strangers before thee, and sojourners, as were all our fathers: our days on the earth are as a shadow, and there is none abiding”

1 Chronicles 29:15

Let thy work appear unto thy servants

and thy glory unto their children.  Psalm 90:16

I will utter dark sayings of old

“I will incline mine ear to a parable: I will open my dark saying upon the harp.”  Psalm 49:4

“We see not our signs: there is no more any prophet: neither is there among us any that knoweth how long.” Psalm 74:9

“I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:”  Psalm 78:2

“And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.”  Isaiah 6:9

“For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.”  Isaiah 29:10

“Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.”  Micah 3:6

“And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: “  Matthew 13:14

“And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.”  Luke 8:10

“That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.”  Matthew 13:35

“(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.”  Romans 11:8

all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation

“Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.”  Revelation 3:11

The light of the body is in the eyes, people who cannot or will not perceive this understanding don’t have that same light also alluded to in Daniel Chapter 12,

“And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.” Daniel 12:3

Its nothing more than arrogance that blinds their understanding, they expect the Word (Jesus) can be divided by some ingenuity around their own intelligence and yet they still arrive at the end with no apparent spiritual discernment, ever learning but never able to obtain the knowledge they desperately need. It requires the Holy Spirit to fully understand, to show us those things which are still to come,

Those ‘having a form of godliness, but deny the power’ that is, they have every appearance of understanding and worshiping the creator, but cannot acknowledge his spirit in all power, operating directly in front of them, for example prophecy as a direct witness, they see flesh instead of his influence or even that of seducing spirits at work all around them operating as ‘principalities and powers’

We’re told how things will be at the end of the age:

“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves,covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” 2 Timothy 3:1-5

The book of Revelation was written in the spirit, from Gods point of view not ours and it requires his spirit to understand and then it will take you to every other book of the bible to see where these patterns repeat, showing us the things which were, which are, and finally what will be.  Anywhere it does not repeat it’s immediately explained.  However many will take just one pattern and presume it to be complete when its merely a shadow of what is still to come as a witness to a much larger audience,

Satan rules this world, it belongs to him because we gave it to him, today he stands in Heaven and accuses the brethren (the Church) as we are operating in the spirit within his physical authority over the Earth, he has authority over the flesh for now.

Jesus came ‘as it is written‘ but instead was rejected and everything in the flesh was taken from him, his inheritance, his vineyard, this world, it was all stolen from him even his very clothes were taken before he hung on the cross, but where Satan meant it for evil, God meant it for good,

Jesus now sits at the right hand of the Father (until) ‘the fulness of the Gentiles’ be come in, when the Father reclaims this physical Earth with the Jubilee restoration of all things, then the court in Daniel Chapter 7 and Revelation Chapters 4 and 5 will render it to the one who has the greater claim to perform the Kinsman redeemer provisions. We can be assured that he will choose to do so and will summarily reclaim this physical Earth from the usurpers, it will be a day of vengeance on the Earth, the vengeance of his Temple (him) not of some stone building once on the Earth.

It’s interesting that many seem to think the following verse was written as an end-time comment from outsiders, read it carefully, these are believers doing the mocking:

“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation 2 Peter 3:3-4

These are also the same ones without oil in their lamps when the bridegroom comes at midnight there was a cry made  with a shout and the trump of God, instead they’re rebuked by him and left standing outside ‘and the door was shut.’

Then Peter goes on to quote Psalm 90 explaining again that a thousand years is as one day, and I tell you that it has only been two days since the Church began in the spirit and the last days began with Peter as he quotes from Joel on Pentecost in 32 AD.

the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times

Everything that brings about the end will revolve around the division of what was restored to Israel beginning in 1948 and then with Jerusalem restored in 1967.  Which is leading to the Jubilee restoration of the transgressors (Israel) ‘coming to the full’ and of which there is a precise and conditional timing mechanism at work here,

“Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.  Daniel 9:25

This is how and why the end comes when it does come, everything else is secondary.  Jesus told us there would be wars and rumors of war (World War 1, World War 2 and rumored World War 3 “but the end is not yet”) but also there would be miry conflicts of kingdom against kingdom and nation against nation at the time of the end,

“But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.” Luke 21:9

“And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.” Matthew 24:6

And that single momentous event which brought about (directly) the end of World War 2, a war which had come as a consequence surrounding events from World War 1, and then with that same closing of that conflict which in turn by itself created the very rumors of World War 3 (even ‘Armageddon’ in our common use)

President Harry Truman, the very man to order its use, after viewing the Trinity test film from the New Mexico desert recognized the prophetic significance of what it could mean for the future,

“We have discovered the most terrible bomb in the history of the world. It may be the fire destruction prophesied in the Euphrates Valley Era, after Noah and his fabulous Ark.”  Harry S. Truman, Diary July 25th, 1945

The statement from the White House informing the world that an atomic weapon had just been detonated in Japan parallels Jesus’ language about being near but not immediately at the close of the age:

“And the end is not yet. With this bomb we have now added a new and revolutionary increase in destruction to supplement the growing power of our armed forces.” President Harry S. Truman, Statement by the President of the United States, August 6, 1945

August 6, 1945 |———25200 days (70 years)——>| August 4th, 2014  (9th day of AV)

While I believe this is also a future event, I believe it parallels or repeats the time when peace was taken from the entire Earth, during the great wars of the 20th century, including culminating with a great weapon being ‘given’

“And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.”  Revelation 6:4

The restoration of Israel (I believe) is leading up to a Jubilee restoration that God will acknowledge in Heaven and as we’re shown in Daniel Chapter 7 and Revelation Chapters 4, 5 and 6 with the Court (24 Elders) going into session and the Kinsman Redeemer provisions (see the book of Ruth) being enacted with only Jesus being legally able (and willing as he does not have to do this for us) to meet these precise conditions to restore everything (and everyone) in this fallen creation. The Earth is his inheritance and it was stolen from him and he was cutoff with nothing.  (see Isaiah Chapter 5 and Luke Chapter 20 for the parable of the wicked tenants and the vineyard)

 “Now will I sing to my wellbeloved a song of my beloved touching his vineyard. My wellbeloved hath a vineyard in a very fruitful hill: And he fenced it, and gathered out the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine, and built a tower in the midst of it, and also made a winepress therein: and he looked that it should bring forth grapes, and it brought forth wild grapes.

And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, I pray you, betwixt me and my vineyard.

What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? wherefore, when I looked that it should bring forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes?

And now go to; I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard: I will take away the hedge thereof, and it shall be eaten up; and break down the wall thereof, and it shall be trodden down: And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.

For the vineyard of the Lord of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry. “  Isaiah Chapter 5:1-7

“Then the owner of the vineyard said, ‘What shall I do? I will send my beloved son; perhaps they will respect him.’ But when the tenants saw him, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Let us kill him, so that the inheritance may be ours.”  Luke 20:13-15

Because it will mean his end, Satan is attempting to prevent the restoration of the Earth via the Laws and Ordinances enacted on the transgressors (Israel) for a set time, that is, Satan is attempting to prevent them from coming into effect as per the Law and scripture by A) breaking it by separating the restoration with a false agreement or B) by placing a wall around it so that it can be encumbered by agreement and that it does not go out in the jubilee release per the strict requirements that must be met as outlined in Leviticus Chapter 25. I believe this is also why we’re shown that Jerusalem must be handed over in Revelation Chapter 11,

“And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.” Revelation 11:1-2

And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land.  And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.  A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed.  For it is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field.  In the year of this jubile ye shall return every man unto his possession.”  Leviticus 25:8-13

I think its this deceit for a false ‘peace and safety’ that is the very ‘covenant with death’ Isaiah tells us about, and that it comes following when Israel agrees to divide the restoration (undoing what God had given them and for which no power on Earth could take by force) and the result is that it brings the war in Heaven (as we’re shown in Revelation Chapter 12) with Satan being cast out to the Earth, and then comes the great tribulation, the time of ‘Jacobs trouble’ following immediately after this pivotal event,

Do an online web search for “Israel and the wall” and see pictures of it for yourself, over 400 miles have already been completed.  Satan is the great deceiver and working both sides to his same end, he is being held back today only by the power of the Holy Spirit at work in the Earth (in this Earth, in you and I) and we’re told straightway that he will ‘no longer restrain’ at some future time, and if you think about it with the above conjectures in mind, you can begin to see why this must be so,

“And if a man sell a dwelling house in a walled city, then he may redeem it within a whole year after it is sold; within a full year may he redeem it.  And if it be not redeemed within the space of a full year, then the house that is in the walled city shall be established for ever to him that bought it throughout his generations: it shall not go out in the jubile.  But the houses of the villages which have no wall round about them shall be counted as the fields of the country: they may be redeemed, and they shall go out in the jubile.”  Leviticus 25:29-31

I will declare the decree

“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.” 

Psalm 2:1-8

that they should believe a lie

Recently there was an article on a popular website referencing a student about to graduate from a prominent Jesuit college, and he outlines how he was now an atheist mainly due to his religious studies curriculum,

From his brief description it was reasonably obvious he had never believed anything, rather he merely accepted what he was told all his life without question and then the first time he had to actually consider, God didn’t immediately conform to what the politically correct all-wise television mainstream media culture had molded into his psyche while he was growing up.

If it were only colleges producing these results,  however many mainstream denominations create listless believers by being nothing more than ‘good works’ social clubs.  While all of us have a spirit, these are asleep, neither have they received nor have they any knowledge beyond their natural existence.  They worship the creature rather than the creator and they believe the lie,

“And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

Its always arrogance that blinds (any of) us from coming to a greater understanding, seeing only in the flesh while attempting to step above where everything around us relating to sin has become normalized.  The student author presented a smug ‘was blind and now he sees ‘ self  promoting egotistical enlightenment.  How could anyone within that environment ever hope to see with the spirit.  Many today have little to fall back on,  if they had never wondered themselves enough to seek the truth , never heard it from their parents or grandparents and relying on secular instruction alone , they will never find a witness or firm ground to stand, only the reverse,

“And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth: But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.” Mark 4:5-6

“For ever, O LORD, your word is settled in heaven.” Psalm 119:89

Satan knows the overall plan of redemption from what has been established in heaven, however he doesn’t know the details or exactly when but he does know enough to lay down a minefield in advance with doctrines and seducing spirits ruling over entire nations and peoples to set things off course, to empower cults and personalities,  to lead many from the truth even before the whole truth is presented, he knows enough to counterfeit many things from the throne room itself, from the design in ancient Egyptian and Babylonian Temples, to Mithra cults,  to the very plan of redemption outlined in the Heavens and established before the world was made, and to do it long before the fulness of time within the holy laws and ordinances were established on the Earth as a faith witness.  A witness empowering us toward that day when he would take it all upon himself to set its foundation in stone, and with us being met by the legitimate creator, our maker, the true King of Righteousness coming with the plan fully implemented in our time, which is always now.

“The stone which the builders rejected has become the head stone of the corner. This is the LORD’S doing; it is marvelous in our eyes” Psalm 118:22-23

“Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation: he that believes shall not be in haste.”  Isaiah 28:16

Nowhere in the Word does it argue for itself that God exists, its a given, we’re told that we should believe from the things that are:

“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: “ Romans 1:20

This is a spiritual deception, being blinded, seeing only in the flesh, the natural world, its nothing unique to our time,

I had a similar conversation several months back with a relative, it was about an online video of an atheist addressing the members of a church, apparently the misguided pastor brought him in as part of ‘understanding’ of divergent beliefs.  Jesus said,  let the dead bury the dead.

I said before we watched the presentation together, I suspect we’ll see certain lines he will not or cannot cross, these will be out of bounds, despite the supposed mutual tone of  ‘tolerance’ however everything else will generally be just fine, anything anti-christ is also fine,

Not unlike mainstream cults, atheists don’t want to hear about certain things,

  1. Do not tell them Jesus, the Son of the living God, has come in the flesh,
  2. Do not quote scripture,
  3. Do not tell them about end time events or prophecy, that is, don’t bring up what is occurring right now in current events as having been foretold in scripture, they will not hear it,

He was very well spoken, articulate, presented his case with all manner of worldly wisdom, easily made the pastor look foolish, but it was surprising how closely he evidenced these three items,  and when he did you could see his entire demeanor change, he was noticeably reticent, very unlike the rest of his (polished) presentation,

When someone rejects the truth, its always interesting to see what they later embrace, what they replace it with, what they ultimately take up with instead of the cross,

Why cant they perceive, discuss or accept prophecy? Because it is a witness here and now directly in front of us,  it cannot be denied, and it requires the spirit to fully see it, and for which they do not have and openly reject,  and hence they have no way of obtaining it without diminishing their overriding worldly wisdom and arrogance and submitting to him for the answer, and he would give it to them freely,

” . . for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Revelation 19:10

At the close of the age,  at the time of the end, we’re told in Revelation Chapter 9 these are the ones that will seek death but not be able to find it, desire to die, but death will flee from them.